A Response
October 2nd, 2007 | by Lance AC Acampado |This could have been made as a commentary to that issue on the military presence.
Are we going to believe again that it is the barangay folks themselves who are leaving their barangays because of the presence of the military or those people who are trying to bring down the government but now can’t do it openly due to the presence of the government men? It is so sad that though these people have already been given the political freedom to fight their battle on legal grounds, they continue to mislead through their various propaganda. And they seem to be very skillful in this because even if they proven to be liars (like saying they are not recruiting minors) they continue to make people think that they are the ones who are telling the truth and that they are the ones who can really save the country.
People, beware! If the military are in the hinterlands, it is only because they want the people to be spared the burden of paying revolutionary taxes when there is no revolution taking place! It is so disheartening that these people cannot accept the fact that the Filipino people does not need what they are fighting for because what they are fighting for is dying: look at Russia, even China is slowly changing.
Friends, the time has come to abandon your cause. If your cause is really that good, you would have won years ago!
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Lance AC Acampado A dedicated family man, a former cadet, an ex-seminarian, youth minister, public servant, blogger and regular contributor to the Eastern Samar Reporter.
34 Responses to “A Response”
By Ka Sinag on Oct 3, 2007 | Reply
i will not answer… just check this!
http://tinuodngasamar.blogs.friendster.com/boses_han_kaguguban/
By Niknok Cepeda on Oct 4, 2007 | Reply
what a powerful statement… so it is true that the rebels are the ones disturbing the peace in the country side. thanks to the military they are there to protect and serve the people TRUELY… i really idolize them because if not for them true peace could never be obtained. so long to those rebels for now… too bad for them the brilliant military personnel are there…
By tungaw on Oct 4, 2007 | Reply
amen again..
By Lance AC Acampado on Oct 5, 2007 | Reply
The military won’t deny that they are doing the checking but they are just doing this to ensure that the people living in the barangay are the real residents, not some other personalities who are trying to discredit the government and arouse rebellion. It will surley be denied by some sectors that there exists “infiltrators” in the barangays (or barrios) sowing seeds of discord. But if the communists are really honest in their commitment to peace and true good governance, they must already give up armed struggles and concentrate on the political and legal battles where everyone is equal and no blood is wasted. If we all want a better Philippines we should unite under its democratic institutions and system where freedom is by far more enjoyable than under a regime espousing full enforcement of party idealism even to the detriment of individual freedoms and enjoyment.
God bless the Philippines!
By Lance on Oct 5, 2007 | Reply
It is not very commendable that the military had to do the checking, but if every party in this struggle for true democracy is only honest then there would be no need for any military presence in the barangays. It is so bad that things like these should happen. C’mon guys, you have been given the chance to do your battle in Congress. Don’t waste anymore lives. Let us maximize the political and legal avenues and let us avoid the useless shedding of blood! The Philippines need heroes but we need heroes who are alive, who are fighting corruption in the open and not causing trouble in the countryside. Let us join our hands together and fight the battle in the arena of democracy. Through this people will know that you really care, that you are really fighting for their welfare.
Let us fight in the name of God, and not of war!
By Niknok Cepeda on Oct 5, 2007 | Reply
nice words lance… its like a first hand experience…
so the military is the representative of peace and equality in the hinter lands?
By Ka Sinag on Oct 5, 2007 | Reply
lance, what an accusation!!! this site is so unfair… it filters my comments! this is an oppression of truth… you all present facts in avery one sided manner!!!
By Ced Solidon on Oct 5, 2007 | Reply
I know who you are but no, I am filtering your comments. I am merely delaying its publication. And before I decide to ban you and your other account, make sure that your accusations are likewise based on facts. Again, I do not tolerate baseless accusations on this blog. Let’s draw the line between really intellectual arguments and mere bickering. You have been warned.
By Eastern Samar Reporter on Oct 7, 2007 | Reply
Sir, I am not accusing, it is reported. Anyway, we all want the Philippines to progress, let us do it openly and in accordance with the true spirit of democracy. Sometimes we only see within the limits of what we beleive in and not beyond the horizon. I don;t know if you believe in God but when God sees the need for change, He do inspire people to do so just like EDSA 1986. Sometimes we cannot understand why God seems so far and unconcerned but facts is He is always around and taking notice of the things that are taking place. Changes may not take place during our lifetime but they surely will in His time (remember the song?).
God bless you, sir. The name you use is great. I do hope that the sun (read, Son) will truly shine in our hearts and in our actions flooding the earth with the blessings of God and causing inspiration among all His children in order to truly renew the face of the Earth!
God bless the Philippines!
Peace be to and in everyone!
By Maverickjockey on Oct 10, 2007 | Reply
For a proper perspective of the issue, allow me to get back at the articles that prodded Mr. Acampado to write in his reaction.
Mr. Ka sinag starts his piece by characterizing a certain family in Maslog, Eastern Samar as “An PAMILYA Santiago nga Demonyo” then he proceeds to elucidate us on the beneficient effect of communist education and enlightenment of the masses, thus: “An parag-uma nga klase nagtalinguha…Nag-aram han pula nga aradman…Hira wara pag-iha nalamragan…Tikang han paging simple nga parag-uma” and then suddenly changes the identity of the masses all by himself as: “Hira pula nga Bahuba” yet later on shifts attributes such designation of name to third persons by ascribing them as : “Hira Bahuba nga guin-ngaranan”.
And who, pray tell us, are the “Bahuba”? Are they not the New People’s Army? Isn’t “Bahuba” the acronym for “Bagong Hukbong Bayan”, the Filipino translation of the NPA acronym?
It seems that in a span of several stanzas in your poem the “farmer” of which Mr. Ka Sinag spoke of being the beneficiaries of a “red education” became later on the “Bahuba” of the NPa.
So how then can these “Bahuba” validly complain of alleged harrassment from the military when Mr. Ka Sinag himself admits and knows fully well that they are armed combatants of the NPA in the ongoing communist insurgeny and not mere innocent civilians? Mr. Ka Sinag himself acknowledges in a subtle way the military offensives conducted by the NPA when he says : “Kaaway ira nira pina-abatan, Bertud han pula nga hustisya” which in layman’s language means ambuscades, raids and summary executions of victims of communist atrocities in the cities and in the countryside.
Mr. Ka Sinag agitates the farmer, calling him as : “mga rinaug-daug” yet calls a certain family as : “An mga demonyo nga Santiago” and classify them as : “reaksyunaryo ” who belongs to a different political class : “nag-aram ha busag” and “ha katawhan bulag” - a classic tactic of the communists by encouraging social clash between the uneducated and the intelligentsia, the haves and the have-nots, the unwashed masses and the political elite - while the agitators stand aside and wait out the struggle to harvest the spoils.
Yet in hindsight, what do the communists have to offer to the masses as far as their ideology is concerned? Nothing but poverty, hunger, bloodshed and chaos, if we go by their records in the former Soviet Union, mainland China, North Korea, the former Soviet bloc (East Germany, Romania, Albania, Czechoslovakia, Yugoslavia, etc.), its long list of misery, human rights violations, extreme economic deprivation, hunger, famine - name it, they have plenty of experience of them.
Now, instead of agitating other people and then bellyaching about it, why don’t you devote yourself to some useful calling or gainful employment so that youu can contribute your little bit to nation building. Or if you cannot be part of the solution to the myriad problems of nationa-building, then at least stop being part of the problem.
We who are dutifully paying our taxes should at least be rid of free-loaders, aside from being given the breathing space to peacefully pursue our respective lawful occupations.
By Lance AC Acampado on Oct 11, 2007 | Reply
Thank you Maverickjockey.
For those who wish to see Ka Sinag’s opinions and pictures he has a Friendster account and there you can actually see what Maverick is pointing out.
In Philosophy we have that principle that “The end cannot justify the means.” We all aspire for peace and development but we have various ways of attaining it. However, reason dictates that the best way to achieve development is peace itself. Sabi nga, “there is no way to peace, peace is the way!”
Pope Paul VI in his encyclical Populorum Progressio states that “the new name for peace is development.” Since we cannot attain peace through peace itself, then we cannot have development without peace.
Hence, if we want to really achieve development then we must choose the way of peace. War and rebellion does not have room in a society trying to make use of reason in order to overcome its problems. God has given us the faculty of the intellect because it is a weapon far greater than swords and guns.
Isn’t “the pen mightier than the sword”?
Let us all work toward the achievement of development in honesty, in sincerity, without deception in the guise of caring for a “rinaugdaug” members of the society.
Ever wonder why the Santiagos’ maintain their hold in Maslog? Why not ask the people themselves.
By Felix Rivas on Oct 15, 2007 | Reply
Time and again, Maverickjockey (code name for an unidentified individual) has superciliously spelled out his/her selective and prejudicial interpretations about the on-going war between his/her labeled “communist insurgents” and the AFP (Armed Forces of the Philippines). We solemnly witness again his/her crude nebulous ideas pertaining to the distinctions of what should be distinguished.
Despite his/her thorough interpretations of Sinag’s poem (Luwa para ha Maslog), we still perceive noticeable gaps in the midst of what is and what is not. Maverickjockey may have acknowledged the sequence of events (from farmer status to NPA guerilla member), however, he/she fell short in differentiating between a farmer-turned-NPA and a farmer-civilian. Thus he/she wrote, “How then can these “Bahuba” [NPA] validly complain of alleged harassment(s) from the military?”
As far as I can interpret to Sinag’s said poetry, he/she never mentioned about “valid complains” by an NPA against military atrocities. This forced me to conclude that Maverickjockey got this “valid complain” from Sinag’s article, “Boses han Baryo,” as actually and entirely different from the poem, “Luwa para ha Maslog.” Clearly, in the said article, Sinag pointed out only about a farmer-civilian and never a farmer-turned-NPA, which Maverickjockey twisted upside-down.
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Evidently, Maverickjockey condescendingly jumps from a lawful complain by a farmer-civilian towards an ‘illegitimate protest’ by a farmer-turned-NPA. This is a plain deliberate move of Maverickjockey to blur the situation instead of clarifying them, and consequently, legitimize the continuing harassments and human rights violations of the military in the remote areas in Eastern Samar.
Once more, we ought to distinguish (as Fhen and Karlo insisted) what is legal and unarmed (farmer-civilian) to what is illegal and armed (farmer-turned-NPA), which Maverickjockey constantly fails to value and emphasize. In truth, Karlo was correct in exclaiming about Maverickjockey being the Sinirangan’s ‘insinuating’ friend.
By Nadia_Dama_Felexa on Oct 15, 2007 | Reply
Maverickjockey you are a concrete example why a grade one student should not be allowed to read poetry! the first thing that you have violated in what you wrote is by understanding the poem as its or literally! Isn’t it the basic rule that you must not take it as it is? I dont have to spell out what i mean, your too intellegent to be spoon fed!
the only thing that I can say is do not be saying stuff if you haven’t been with the people that you accusing of. If you will just base everything that you will say on what read… my friend, wake up! for 36years or more than the movement exist/existed and it even has an office in MAKATI (NDF). so it only means that there is truth in what it fights and there reality in what they portray. and that people or some if you may are helping them. don’t even dare to day that there is international help! there is none because the number one rule in communism is “pagtapud ha kalugaringon” that is why they are not asking help from other communist countries…
go ahead i await for you “conspiracy theory” responses…
By Maverikjockey on Oct 16, 2007 | Reply
Well, well, well, what have we here? Must have rubbed raw some nerves to generate such a vehement lynch mob reaction.
As to Mr. Felix Rivas’s assertions about having myself “superciliously spelled out…selective and prejudicial interpretations about the on-going war between” the “communist insurgents” and “the AFP”, wasn’t it Mr. Ka Sinag himself/herself who was arrogant and disdainful when he/she labeled a certain family from the municipality of Maslog in Eastern Samar as “An PAMILYA Santiago nga Demonyo”? What statements could be more prejudicial than the assertion of Mr. Ka Sinag that “An PAMILYA Santiago nga Demonyo” are “reaksyunaryo”, “nag-aram ha busag” and “ha katawhan bulag” that would at the very least subject them to the “pula nga hustisya” (meaning summary justice – kangaroo court style). These epithets are not empty words but standard slogans and labels by communist insurgents and sympathizers on people, establishments and institutions they consider as hostile to their aims and/or agenda.
In any event, and as I have been saying all along, communist insurgents and their supporters and sympathizers are most vociferous in their denunciations about any perceived violation of their democratic rights. But once they themselves become the subject of criticisms, they turn on their critics with equal, and if not worse, ferocity. Talk then of affording others the same democratic space - that’s a mere figure of speech to them, nothing more.
Mr. Felix Rivas chose to nitpick the minute distinctions between a “farmer-civilian” and a “farmer-turned-NPA” but conveniently chose to ignore the line about the communist insurgents’ being “Hira Bahuba nga guin-ngaranan, Kaaway ira nira pina-abatan, Bertud han pula nga hustisya”. And what if I may ask, does red or communist justice mean or imply? I am sure the untold numbers of soldiers, simple government employees, civilians, and even communist fighters, their supporters and sympathizers can eloquently speak of such kind of justice if they can only rise six feet from below the ground.
Again, as standard ideological strategy of the communists, they try to hide behind the mantle of the legal system of the existing political order by pointing out the alleged distinctions between the aboveground various communist front organizations and personalities as contrasted with those who are underground and engaged in armed rebellion. But all of us know that they are one and they same, they simply put down or hide their guns when confronted by law enforcers and then take them up when and if they find it safe or convenient already. But all while, they continue to engage in their subversive activities, gnawing and nibbling away at the foundations of our democratic institutions like termites eating away at base of our house, unseen, yet continues to engage in their nefarious ways.
As for Ms. Nadia_Dama_Felexa, allow me to say that when people read poetry, whatever interpretation a person may have about he/she reads is entirely up to him/her. But it would the height of hypocrisy and self-righteousness to impose one’s perception on another. Or is it just a reflection of what actually transpires in the highly-hierarchical and autocratic communist organizational structure as mandated in its dictum of “dictatorship of the proletariat” and “democracy from the top”?
You say “pagtapud ha kalugaringon” as in extorting money from ordinary people, small and big businessmen, small transport operators, sari-sari sore owners and other law-abiding citizens which the communists euphistically label as “revolutionary tax”? And what about those who refuse to come across, are they dealt the so-called “hustisya nga pula”? We still have to see communists engaging in gainful employment to earn an honest living to support their political movement and various activities, whether legal or illegal. Or do you mean like the “juche” of the North Koreans that drove millions of their own countrymen to extreme penury, deprivation, starvation and death while the political elite wallow in unfettered luxury, decadently cavorting with barely clothed nubile girls and partaking of capitalist delicacies and frivolities (not very much unlike those who are in the Netherlards)?
By Felix Rivas on Oct 17, 2007 | Reply
Maverickjockey is on the loss again. And so it seems…
Mockingly discussing Maverickjockey’s ’standard’ perception and I quote, “…they try to hide behind the mantle of the legal system of the existing political order by pointing out the alleged distinctions between the aboveground various communist front organizations and personalities as contrasted with those who are underground and engaged in armed rebellion.”
He/she merely justifies my argument that Maverickjockey sees no distinction whatsoever to the ‘legal left’ and ‘illegal left’ (in Karlo’s terms). He/she even made a narrow conclusion, “But all of us know that they are one and they same…” For sure, this ‘all’ is Maverickjockey’s set of friends and clique, or perhaps some of his/her imagined friends. Karlo, Fhen, and Nadia_Dama_Felexa, and the rest will definitely disagree to his/her ‘one and they same.’ Or is it ‘the same’ instead of ‘they same’? In this respect, I am right and I quote Maverickjockey again, “whatever interpretation a person may have about he/she reads is entirely up to him/her.”
Whatever his/her ‘loathe’ to the communist, and I interpret this communist ‘entirely up to’ me as the Communist Party of the Philippines, Maverickjockey will continue to insist in the absolute similarities of the CPP and the legal organizations labeling them as “aboveground various communist front organizations.” So these legal organizations are front organizations of the CPP? And that they are no different?
Once again, Maverickjockey vehemently legitimize the harassments, tortures, and even killings of the members of these legal organizations by the military and para-military agents. For him/her, these military atrocities in the remote areas, like Maslog and other regions in Eastern Samar, are okay at the expense of human rights violations to the ordinary civilians.
Once more, Maverickjockey proves himself/herself the ‘insinuating’ friend of Sinirangan.
By Maverikjockey on Oct 17, 2007 | Reply
You saying “on the loss”? I can’t make heads or tails of your point as there is absolutely no figure of speech like that.
Anyway, when you argue a point, you do not affirm your own argument by your own positive assertion that the argument of the other party “justifies” your own and say yourself that you are “right”, otherwise that is self-serving and self-aggrandizing. At least have the modesty to wait for the compliment of or affirmation by others.
Thinking aloud, I wonder where’d you get the presumption about my “set of friends and clique” when I’ve been all by my lonesome self here while you and your obvious pals: Karlo, Fhen, and Nadia_Dama_Felexa have ganged up on me. By the way, how come you’re very sure that “Karlo, Fhen, and Nadia_Dama_Felexa and the rest will definitely disagree” with me? You mean you and they are one and the same person, just using different pseudonyms? Well, that speak volumes.
As to the word “all”, it was a reference to the figure of speech that it is common knowledge that armed members of the communist insurgency and their supporters and sympathizers belong to one and the same organization, albeit the former being underground while the latter being aboveground and legal. The communist organization merely exploits the legal fiction afforded them by the existing legal system where the legal fronts operates openly and freely while the underground movement operates clandestinely or in the shadows. If you can tell that the communists does not operate that way, then I can tell you likewise that no active communist member, supporter or sympathizer have ever or will ever admit to being one.
It is a given that all subversive organizations operate stealthily and by subterfuge and will not openly admit that they are such while they are in the process of subverting the political order of the day. But once they attain ultimate political power, they will in turn declare all opponents as subversives and enemies of the state. That’s what happened in the former Soviet Union, in the present mainland China, North Korea, Vietnam, Cambodia and other communist countries.
But one thing that Mr. Felix Rivas falsely foists on other readers is his delusional and fallacious assertion that I “vehemently legitimize the harassments, tortures, and even killings of the members of these legal organizations by the military and para-military agents.” Nowhere in my posts did I ever make such endorsement. Neither did I express at any time any approval of Mr. Felix Rivas’s hallucinogic conclusions about “these military atrocities in the remote areas, like Maslog and other regions in Eastern Samar”.
On this point, I would like to state simply and say that Mr. Felix Rivas is a l-i-a-r.
Finally, why bemoan somebody else’s use of a pseudonym when you and your pals (assuming they’re different persons) also use pseudonyms? (But just in case I’m referring to a single person, I need not elaborate further on matters of honesty.) Incidentally, who are the people who are fond of using pseudonyms? (If I may hazard a guess, they’re the same people who like to append to their names the appellation “Ka” - despite not being native/indigenous Tagalog speakers - meaning “kasama” or “comrade”).
By Haruan on Oct 17, 2007 | Reply
may i respectfully interject…
we know for a fact that both sides are like bulls’ horns locked into each other. so, there’s no point of debating on your contentions. this site is absolutely not a proper venue to discuss and sow communism or aversive anti-communism sentiments.
can we not discuss on something that could unite us instead of those self-serving divisive jabbers?
i have my own conviction but i’d rather keep my silence coz it won’t do the site and its rightful audience any good…
i think we all need a high sense of solidarity.
please don’t make this site as your virtual battle ground for this was not conveniently prepared to serve just your own purpose…
our intellect should not render us uncivil, rude, or insensitive to others… please don’t marginalize other “unaligned” individuals!
By Fhen Macabasag on Oct 18, 2007 | Reply
I am one with Haruan that “This site is absolutely not a proper venue to discuss and sow communism or aversive anti-communism sentiments.”
I for one has something to say about this topic but as Haruan stipulated, “I have my own conviction but i’d rather keep my silence…”
I prepare not to take any side, this time around, amidst the seemingly “bulls’ horns locked into each other.”
We should indeed, not make this site a “virtual battle ground.” Rather we should make ways to “unite us instead of those self-serving divisive jabbers.”
We should be ‘civil,’ unrude and sensitive (borrowing Haruan’s counter-words) to others or each other.
And by the way Maverickjockey, sorry to disappoint you, and whether you believe it or not, I am never Karlo, Felix Rivas, and Nadia_Dama_Felexa. I am Fhen Macabasag. Please know this well…
Thank you!
By Maverikjockey on Oct 18, 2007 | Reply
Haruan:
My apologies to you for upsetting your day.
But to paraphrase an adage, it is said that only authoritarians and dictators deal in absolutes - meaning they do not entertain a middle ground, one is either for or against.
And so it is that one needs to listen and have the patience to listen, even to the impertinence and idiocy of some (and I’m not referring to anyone in particular), because this world is not made of absolutes - there are always viewpoints that differ from our own and so we ought to respect them.
The last time I heard, this was still a free country where every Filipino is free to speak out his mind.
However, if all we’ll ever do is sing the same tune and dance to the same music all the time - so to speak - then why bother putting up this site in the first place.
I believe variety makes life more palatable and enjoyable, whether figuratively or literally (try it, it really is!).
By Felix Rivas on Oct 18, 2007 | Reply
I am tempted to go on with the debate (allow me to use that term) against Maverickjockey.
And I am not surprise in his/her finger-pointing, utilizing the desperate word “L-I-A-R.” Perhaps I can recite one of the fallacies of logic, the so-called poisoning the well. I think I don’t need to explain what it means because I am, in essence, continuing this debate, which I am already failing to avoid.
For the sake of solidarity (Haruan’s term), I’d rather not say another argument/s pertaining to Maverickjockey’s interpretation of a certain poem/siday. I believe I have already exhaust all my reasoning, so to speak, and debating further will only lead to a cycle of ‘capsule’ arguments.
Lastly, for mere clarification, and in fairness to Karlo, Fhen, Nadia_Dama_Felexa (Whoever they are!), we are not the same person. I’d rather not quote Mavirickjockey in this case. I have already said what I must say. And I won’t question the pseudo-name Maverickjockey as to whether he/she is one person with any pseudo-name used in this site. Or else, I will only reduce myself to Maverickjockey. Opssss, there I am again…heheheh
Unfortunately, I won’t be apologetic to Maverickjockey, opposite to Fhen’s ‘non-assaultive’ approach.
Before I can say bad words here, I’d say, “No comment.”
By Haruan on Oct 18, 2007 | Reply
you don’t mean your apologies so well as reflected in your justification. kindly reflect on your views and revisit your point…
variety makes life interesting but it’s gross to interpose variety with disagreement…
i agree with you… there’s no such thing as middle ground! i subscribe to the ideals of the left but i never use this medium to wrangle out with others.
well, to take your paragraphs 2 and 3 is a matter of perspective. democracy and freedom should not be taken out of context. yes, we all can say anything we want but we should be humble and responsible enough. the pen is mightier than the sword but it was never meant to hurt!
my appeal though is not to shut anyone up here but to build bridges of friendship and solidarity between and among estehanons.
mav, there’s more to life… let’s drink to that!
By jenny on Oct 19, 2007 | Reply
Maverickjockey, what you said were all true. It’s the real situation and that is what their people are indoctrinating.
By Maverickjockey on Oct 19, 2007 | Reply
To Haruan :
My apology was not for the posts I made which I will never do but merely for upsetting your day. Over and beyond that, it will be a matter of your own equanimity.
And as you admit that you do not accept a middle ground, then I must say that you’re only capable of dishing out criticism on others but you can’t take a dose of your own medicine.
That’s the problem with leftists and their supporters and sympathizers, they’re the most vociferous in criticizing the failings of their opponents but when the tables are turned and they become the subject of critiques, the critic end up either disparaged or dead (like what happened to all those numerous personages in and outside the communist movement who dared to voice their contrary positions).
If what you want is a universal uniformity of opinion, I’m telling you it only happens in cemeteries where there is overwhelmingly a silent majority. Don’t expect everybody to subscribe to your own way of thinking because there will always be some who will have a different way of looking at things. Besides, reading other people’s point of view opens our eyes to things that we don’t see or notice if all we’ll ever read are those with opinions similar as one’s own.
To Felix Rivas :
Your attempt to be coy about not engaging in further debate with me fails miserably in the face of the fact that you were caught flat-footed falsely accusing me of acts which I have never done.
The fact is, I dared you before to cite any of my previous posts wherein I did so, yet you were not able to produce even an iota of proof. Don’t tell me that you did not try to peruse all of them because that would be another big, fat lie on your part.
You know, all communist supporters, synpathizers and coddlers, they’re just running true to form as what Marx and Lenin themselves have espoused. They’re nothing but predatory fishes swimming among the teeming masses of the people, hiding in the anonymity of the people and subverting the system from within, feeding off the democratic system, taking advantage and exploiting the democratic space afforded to them by the political system, but working however for the destruction and downfall of the very system that nourishes and nurtures them.
Don’t tell me that it’s not what they are doing now, because I will call you again a liar.
By Haruan on Oct 19, 2007 | Reply
a kamadulo ma nim suga ka hin kapaya largo nagtatagok…
By Maverickjockey on Oct 19, 2007 | Reply
Haruan :
Seems you’ve run out of sensible things to write about. As people sometimes say, make sure to find your own size before you tangle with someone.
By Haruan on Oct 20, 2007 | Reply
an im nagadla hit mayawit… mala ura tim pagtapod
By Maverickjockey on Oct 22, 2007 | Reply
Haruan :
You’re now reduced to one-liners; an indication of bankruptcy of ideas. You start throwing brickbats, yet you’re the first to complain. As the saying goes, if you can’t endure the heat, better get out of the kitchen.
By Haruan on Oct 23, 2007 | Reply
mav: a one-liner post is not an indication of bankruptcy of ideas… and i don’t think there’s “heat” in here! i enjoy reading articles across spectrum regardless of sense and their lack of it.
don’t you worry boy/girl coz i’m just chilling out here…
alright, you all have the creative license to say and write what you want and to rationalize your virtual presence.
bye for now coz i have deadlines to beat…
may the good ALLAH bless you!
By Maverickjockey on Oct 23, 2007 | Reply
Edit: Some parts of this comment were taken out for the sake of brevity. Reason is stated below. Please keep your comments brief. Thanks. -Ced
Going back to my previous peroration, I would like to emphasize the point that the only probable valid ground for the organization of the communist movement in Eastern Samar is the apparent widespread poverty in the locality. But as far as agrarian unrest which initially fueled the founding of the communist movement in Central Luzon, that is not present because almost all farmers in the province are llikewise landowners, hence there is no exigency of land redistribution like what needed to be done at the time in Central Luzon.
But then, if poverty was used as basis by the communists, was it valid enough reason to rebel and take up arms in order for such grievance to be addressed? Are the alleged military “abuses” validly taken up or were they mere pretextses to justify the manipulative agitation being conducted by the communists among the misinformed or uninformed masses in the barrios?
If one will look at the situation, poverty in our province has been there since time immemorial or as far back as one can remember. But what country in the whole world has not experienced poverty of its citizens in one degree or another? History has shown us that it is always the masses who suffers the worst whenever there is any form of social upheaval such as revolution. Take the case of Russia : when the Bolsheviks revolted in 1917 against the Tsarist regime, the most numerous victims of mass purges (meaning mass killings) of the communist revolution were the most fervent proponents themselves; millions of communist members themselves were put to death because of mutual suspicion and paranaoia, millions more were arrested, imprisoned and eventually died in concentration camps or “gulags” due to torture, ill-treatment, lack of proper medical care and outright starvation. This is not to include the hapless innocent civilians who were summarily killed on the spot by rifle or pistol fire for just being in the way.
The same thing also happened in comunist China during the Cultural Revolution where an atmosphere of mutual suspicion and paranoia pervaded and which was encouraged by the communist government itself. Friends informed on friends, neighbors informed on neighbors, relatives informed on relatives, even within families children would report their own parents to the authorities to be arrested, imprisoned, tortured and even killed. It was mass and chaotic social upheaval that turned friends against friends, neighbors against neighbors, relatives against relatives, family members against family members. The net effect was that nobody could trust anybody anymore. The Cultural Revolution was only stopped when Chinse Communist paramount leader, Mao Tse Tung, finally acknowledged that it was already tearing the fabric of Chinese society apart and would in a short span of time unravel the communist governemnt itself. In the meantime, millions of innocent lives have already been lost and millions more were destroyed.
The same thing happened when the communists took over Cambodia as chllingly told in the true-to-life story of “The Killing Fields”, in Vietnam’s “boat people” refugee phenomenon, the Eastern Europe’s (then East Germany, Romania, Czechoslovakia, Yugoslavia, Poland, Albania) dictatorships and impoverishment and finally at present, North Korea - where millions of its people have been reduced to beggars and millions are starving (millions ahve already died died due to hunger) because of the excesses and follies of its communist rulers led by its dictator, Kim Jong Il.
And yet some seeming wiseguys of us would still argue that communism is the answer to our problems, or rather revolution is the solution to our poverty? Correct me if I’m wrong but didn’t the communists always shout : “Sagot sa kahirapan : rebolusyon!”? But wouldn’t revolution make us more poorer or do they commuunists mean that since all of us would now become poor, then we would be equal in terms of misery and wretchedness? Now, that’s some kind of wierd sado-masochistic mentality, inflicting pain and hardship on one’s own self to finally acknowledge that it is really painful. But then, communists have been known to do much, much worse so there is no surprise in there anymore.
Here in our country, the Communist Party of the Philippines itself is no stranger to suich excesses. It also conducted it own mass purges and executions before and even now continually does so, although it will not admit to such brutality. Just read through this and I hope you won’t cry after you’re through with it :
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I do not need to say more.
By Maverickjockey on Oct 24, 2007 | Reply
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By Joe on Oct 27, 2007 | Reply
I think I can add some simple words for this ongoing but important discussion.
On my few visits to Samar I had few opportunities to talk to soldiers in the field.
I had for them a simple Q. Why do you think you are killed in this place?
The answers were almost unanimously: “BECAUSE OF CORRUPTION”.
I never ever heard a soldier saying: We are dying because of NPA or because of COMMUNISM.
Most of the people in the hinterland will tell you in a low voice that the NPA are “Buotan”.
So the solution for the problem is pointing to Manila, because they are partially responsible for what happens, and they are getting the bullets too.
I think that:
It is easier to turn a communist into a Pilipino, rather than turning a Pilipino into a communist. LOL
Then if we eliminate jokes of the moment I think the Gov. in Manila has a big problem.
The solution is only through proper budgets and programs(much on education of the youth to have the change) for the people of the province.
The programs should be presented to all, and call the rebels to lay their arms and join for a salary and for the patria in the uplifting of the people.
Sounds so simple? But considering those sociopaths in the different political hierarchy, I think many more soldiers still will have to return home in coffins.
I may have been one of the few foreign visitors to the interior, because I put my faith in the people. I can say that Samar is loosing the best resource which is the potential industriousness of the people which is not put into action.
Much of the people capacity is put to a waste!!!
I can say that wherever I went, the army and the people were very polite and hospitable.
As for the communists I never met anyone of them, but their existence gives only one advantage to Samar no logging no mining.
I saw the damage done to the environment by those logging the forests above Carayacy.
That is enough to call your attention, that if that will ever be continued (deforestation and mining)…THEN NO TOURIST WILL COME TO VISIT YOUR PLACE.
This is a “NO DEAL” because nothing will ever reach the people, and no need to elaborate why.
By Joe on Oct 27, 2007 | Reply
BTW I am inviting you all, from “Right to Left” to view my friendster about my trip across Samar. My Centavo contribution to the peopole.
Hope you will enjoy the nice side and forget for a moment about the problems engulfing the island.
http://profiles.friendster.com/samarisland
By Maverickjockey on Oct 30, 2007 | Reply
To Joe :
I don’t think your few visits to Samar, much less your advocacy about not very many tourist visiting the place in case deforestation and mining is not halted would qualify you as an expert on the political and socio-economic conditions of the island. At its best, what you saw only was a superficial impression of the lives and livelihoods of the people, not the deep and psycho-social feel that would let you appreciate their culture as a native Samarnon would have.
By Maverickjockey on Nov 8, 2007 | Reply
To the point of being redundant, here is another instance of Communist butchery at its most foul, not sparing even childbearing women from summary execution.
Yet this Mr. Macabasag and all his ilk of sympathizers and communist syncophants chooses to ignore such inhumane brutality and cruelty and opts to hero-fy and eulogize Communist cadres engaged in an armed conflict with the military (knowing fully well that these communist cadres recognize very well that sooner or later violent death will catch up with them).
For more details on the matter, please click the following link :
http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/breakingnews/regions/view_article.php?article_id=99660
and you will find out for yourself how repulsive Communist ideology is and how it is so anathema to Filipino culture and values.
And my worst fear is that there are also many, many unreported victims of mass killings by the Communists in Eastern Samar which are yet to see the light up to now. If the Communists could commit such revolting atrocities in other places, Eastern Samar cannot be an exception; perhaps only because families of such Communist atrocities victims are too terrified to speak out for fear of retribution.
Why am I not seeing/hearing the same vociferous denunciation from Mr. Macabasag and his ilk of sympathizers and communist synchopants? Your telling silence is deafening!